Comments on: How to Protect Your Private Information From Apple http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/ Everything new in technology news Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:32:07 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sherry http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-9324 Sherry Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:04:13 +0000 http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/#comment-9324 talking about iPhone my friend been asking me if there's a contest to win a free iPhone. Well, I don't see any :( <em>Sherry's last blog post..<a href='http://anothercontest.blogspot.com/2008/11/earthly-explorations-1st-year-blog.html' rel="nofollow">Earthly Explorations 1st Year Blog Anniversary</a></em> talking about iPhone my friend been asking me if there’s a contest to win a free iPhone. Well, I don’t see any :(

Sherry’s last blog post..Earthly Explorations 1st Year Blog Anniversary

]]> By: moserw http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-9118 moserw Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:33:57 +0000 http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/#comment-9118 Apple has always been way too intrusive for my liking and that's one reason I have never used their products/services much. I used to have iTunes on my system but its intrusiveness made me get rid of it in a hurry. Thanks for sharing good to know and useful information. <em>moserw's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/RajivsBlog/~3/408452871/' rel="nofollow">Baby Corn Lollipop Recipe!</a></em> Apple has always been way too intrusive for my liking and that’s one reason I have never used their products/services much. I used to have iTunes on my system but its intrusiveness made me get rid of it in a hurry. Thanks for sharing good to know and useful information.

moserw’s last blog post..Baby Corn Lollipop Recipe!

]]> By: Martin Foster http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-8997 Martin Foster Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:43:27 +0000 http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/#comment-8997 Thanks for this useful info. I had never considered this before. <em>Martin Foster's last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/FreelyGive/~3/421506036/apple-announces-all-new-macbook' rel="nofollow">Apple announces all New MacBook</a></em> Thanks for this useful info. I had never considered this before.

Martin Foster’s last blog post..Apple announces all New MacBook

]]> By: You Are A Techie When Your License Plate Says So http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-8810 You Are A Techie When Your License Plate Says So Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:27:03 +0000 http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/#comment-8810 [...] How to Protect Your Private Information From Apple [...] [...] How to Protect Your Private Information From Apple [...]

]]> By: joe http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1569 joe Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:04:07 +0000 http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/#comment-1569 Wayne: I added a note to the top. I will follow up with more information if someone sniffs packets and comes up with something definitive. Wayne: I added a note to the top. I will follow up with more information if someone sniffs packets and comes up with something definitive.

]]> By: Wayne http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1567 Wayne Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:15:29 +0000 http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/#comment-1567 Joe, now that the truth is coming out will you be correcting your article to reflect those new facts? NOTE: this is assuming you're reading the articles that are clearly saying it's NOT the IMEI after checking the data that is being sent - if not I'll be happy to post links so you can Joe, now that the truth is coming out will you be correcting your article to reflect those new facts?

NOTE: this is assuming you’re reading the articles that are clearly saying it’s NOT the IMEI after checking the data that is being sent – if not I’ll be happy to post links so you can

]]> By: Wayne http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1564 Wayne Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:33:15 +0000 http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/#comment-1564 Joe, I have read more - which is why I'm criticising your article. I'm sorry, but your article is weak. Some examples "Today, Uneasy Silence offered proof" >> no, they reported on someone else's proof. You couldn't even credit or link the person that did provide the "proof". Here it is http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16125 "obviously this raises concerns about what other data is being collected" >> Yes, once you've shown or know that personal data is being sent. At the moment you have no idea what is being sent. The only concern raised is "is anything actually being sent" "Then, they could send made-up data (maybe even more often than expected to overload Apple" >> Are you serious. Are you really expecting a few characters of text to overload Apple? "The ultimate solution..." >> Step 1 in any solution is to find out what is being sent. Calculator.app on Leopard uses the same URL encoding to send the super secret personal data string of "APPLE" (http://wu-calculator.apple.com/dgw?imei=APPLE) - is that an IMEI too? This same "IMEI" encoding is used on the iTouch (how could an iTouch possibly have an IMEI, it's not even a phone!) The point I'm making is that you're spreading rumour without facts. If your article title was "How to protect data from being sent to Apple (where that data could be anything, we don't actually know what it is because we haven't bothered to look at it yet)" then it would be good writing. As it is it's just spreading chaff Joe, I have read more – which is why I’m criticising your article. I’m sorry, but your article is weak. Some examples

“Today, Uneasy Silence offered proof”
>> no, they reported on someone else’s proof. You couldn’t even credit or link the person that did provide the “proof”. Here it is http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16125

“obviously this raises concerns about what other data is being collected”
>> Yes, once you’ve shown or know that personal data is being sent. At the moment you have no idea what is being sent. The only concern raised is “is anything actually being sent”

“Then, they could send made-up data (maybe even more often than expected to overload Apple”
>> Are you serious. Are you really expecting a few characters of text to overload Apple?

“The ultimate solution…”
>> Step 1 in any solution is to find out what is being sent.

Calculator.app on Leopard uses the same URL encoding to send the super secret personal data string of “APPLE” (http://wu-calculator.apple.com/dgw?imei=APPLE) – is that an IMEI too?

This same “IMEI” encoding is used on the iTouch (how could an iTouch possibly have an IMEI, it’s not even a phone!)

The point I’m making is that you’re spreading rumour without facts. If your article title was “How to protect data from being sent to Apple (where that data could be anything, we don’t actually know what it is because we haven’t bothered to look at it yet)” then it would be good writing. As it is it’s just spreading chaff

]]> By: joe http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1560 joe Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:28:26 +0000 http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/#comment-1560 Rusty: Good point. I can see valid uses for information being sent and in no way am I proposing that Apple is going to start signing up for credit cards in your name or anything. There's just a concern that if they are really collecting that much personal data, what are they using it for and how secure is it. Rusty: Good point. I can see valid uses for information being sent and in no way am I proposing that Apple is going to start signing up for credit cards in your name or anything. There’s just a concern that if they are really collecting that much personal data, what are they using it for and how secure is it.

]]> By: joe http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1559 joe Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:22:22 +0000 http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/#comment-1559 Wayne: Please read more before posting. The purpose of my post was to tell you ways in which you could get around sending information to Apple. Perhaps I should have posted the parameter list instead of expecting you to read the article I referenced, so here it is now. dgw?imei=%@&apptype=finance A variable is being sent as the IMEI number. I don't own an iPhone (as mentioned in my post), but I can only imagine that the value of that variable is a valid IMEI, although it COULD be a flag, too. I didn't write the article and, again, I don't own an iPhone, so I am unable to test it myself. Thank you, too for passing on the link to information about what an IMEI is. I am, however, familiar with IMEIs, as my company developed the software for a satellite phone and I was lead developer in this effort. Wayne: Please read more before posting. The purpose of my post was to tell you ways in which you could get around sending information to Apple. Perhaps I should have posted the parameter list instead of expecting you to read the article I referenced, so here it is now.

dgw?imei=%@&apptype=finance

A variable is being sent as the IMEI number. I don’t own an iPhone (as mentioned in my post), but I can only imagine that the value of that variable is a valid IMEI, although it COULD be a flag, too. I didn’t write the article and, again, I don’t own an iPhone, so I am unable to test it myself. Thank you, too for passing on the link to information about what an IMEI is. I am, however, familiar with IMEIs, as my company developed the software for a satellite phone and I was lead developer in this effort.

]]> By: Joyce Babu http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-1558 Joyce Babu Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:02:58 +0000 http://www.joetech.com/2007/11/19/how-to-protect-your-private-information-from-apple/#comment-1558 I don't own an iPhone. But even if I had one, I doubt doing something like that. I don’t own an iPhone. But even if I had one, I doubt doing something like that.

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